Susan Morals
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Posted - 2008.10.05 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: elric gallach The only way eve will ever get rid of macro miners. Is to reduce their income from mining. More mining for less isk = longer hours for the same money. When the amount of money they earn playing eve, becomes less than the amount they get playing wow, thatÆs when theyÆll leave.
Surely, if they're macro miners, then what they will have is a rack of PC's running clients for all kinds of MMO's, and so (assuming your basic theory is correct) CCP would need to bring the price of isk below that needed to power some fraction of a computer to make the macro miners move to another game.
Originally by: elric gallach The introduction of the rorqual to empire, would depress ore prices. Bad for macros But ships would be cheaper to build, (good for pvpÆs).
Bad for non-macro miners too. Also, if ships were cheaper to build, everyone would move up a ship class, so no overall change to PVP, except that the price of entry (in terms of skills needed) goes up. (See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_race)
Originally by: elric gallach By making it storable only in corp hangers, would mean that only player corps could have 1. If macro miners formed a player corp, they could be wardecced. (Good for pvpÆs bad for macros)
I understand that your main complaint against macro miners is that they have too much money. Assuming this is correct, if their player corp gets war dec'd then they can just throw that corp away and start a new one (I think the cost of a new corp is a couple of million, or about 1/2 an hour with a high-sec hulk) Also, there are a lot of serious miners in non-player corps. Why should these people be denied access to a Rorqual?
Originally by: elric gallach New players would soon realize that the way to make isk is to join player corps. And get mining bonuses. (Good for player corps).
Bad for people who aren't in player corps. Not everyone plays game the same way as you.
Originally by: elric gallach Bigger mining corps is better for alliances, A more constant supply of minerals to build ships etc. and increase the war effort. ( And more team trained miners to recruit)
I build Covetors for fun and profit (Eve mail me for a quote!) and I have no problem finding reasonably priced ores in high-sec. OK, I'm not building dreadnoughts, but my friends who do are not having problems finding reasonably pried ores in high-sec, or even downright cheep ores in low-sec.
I think you have a solution looking for a problem here. Despite all the complaints on forums about macro mining, there is a definite lack of any real evidence about how much of it there is going on. If I'm wrong, please post some links so we can all see the evidence, although I'm not going to accept "this guy was a macroer because he didn't respond when I tried to talk to him in local" as evidence.
Sue.
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